Putting the Ops Back Into DevOps, SpringOne Tour Istanbul with Nate Schutta & Paul Czarkowski


This week I’ve got a discussion about DevOps I had with Nate and Paul. I’ve been curious about the changing nature of DevOps as SRE and platform operations comes into vogue. It seems like the idea of full stack DevOps is being dimension…and maybe DevOps itself? Maybe now it’s just OpsOps. We also talk about enterprise architecture and governance in the age of decoupled, event-driven, microservices. And somewhere in there, we talk about how culture gets changed and who needs to do it. We discuss! This was one of the Pivotal Conversations talks at SpringOne Tour in Istanbul done at a table in the lunch room, with about 8 attendees. I’ve cut out most of the attendee interaction to keep their stuff off the record. And pardon the background noise, I’ve tried to remove as much as possible without distorting the entrée audio.

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Nathaniel T Schutta
Software Architect

Nathaniel T. Schutta is a software architect and Java Champion focused on cloud computing, developer happiness and building usable applications. A proponent of polyglot programming, Nate has written multiple books, appeared in countless videos and podcasts. He’s also a seasoned speaker who regularly presents at worldwide conferences, No Fluff Just Stuff symposia, meetups, universities, and user groups. In addition to his day job, Nate is an adjunct professor at the University of Minnesota, where he teaches students to embrace (and evaluate) technical change. Driven to rid the world of bad presentations, he coauthored the book Presentation Patterns with Neal Ford and Matthew McCullough, and he also published Thinking Architecturally and Responsible Microservices available from O’Reilly. His latest book, Fundamentals of Software Engineering, is currently available in early release.